Courage

 If you are currently in a dispute with Angie, please know your pain and frustrations are valid. 

I believe you.

You are not the "villain" that she's making you out to be.

Be strong.

Be courageous.

Stay honest and truthful.

Above all, screenshot everything!

If you are expecting a refund or missing items, it's best to resign yourself to the fact you may never receive them. Five years later and I still never received my full order from Angie, nor do I ever expect to. It is also wise to receive her sob stories with extreme caution, she will say absolutely anything to get her own way. She is the most morally corrupt person who I have ever had the misfortune to cross my path. Everything out of her mouth is a lie. I honestly don't know how she lives with herself but they're her life choices. We all have free will. It would just be nice if some of us used our energy for good and not pure evil.

A small collection of Angie's trail of destruction until I got tired of all the negativity...

 

Trading Post Complaint:

 

Arena thread: Here (missing items and now claims to be a NYC Police Sargent battling cancer)

Arena Thread: Here (reported as a non-paying buyer) 

Arena Thread: Here (mis-represented items and seriously delayed a refund)

 

When I saw this posted on Facebook, I thought of my situation with Angie. It came to my attention that she had been talking smack about me in a large private Facebook group that I couldn't access. Therefore I couldn't defend myself.

I did predict this character assassination so I instinctively told my version of events on the Arena (which is publicly accessible to read without an account... unlike the private Facebook group). At one point in an Arena post I mentioned how I was (understandably) stressed by this situation. My "health" is something Angie referred to in her Paypal rebuttal so she demonstrated evidence of reading what I had written. She had an unfair advantage over me.

For me, it's probably for the best that I couldn't see what horrible things people were saying about me in the Facebook group... but I would have appreciated the opportunity to decide that for myself. I was unfairly not given that choice in this ridiculous melodrama.

I was told that Angie has an Arena account but "apparently" she forgot her password, conveniently was unable to use "Forgot My Password" and just needs to email a Moderator to unlock her account. She would then be able to comment on my posts and tell her side of the story - in addition to having an entire private Facebook group at her disposal. Bring it on. 

However not once did she re-activate her account and make a single comment. She's not a timid flower, as indicated by literally everything she has written. She doesn't back down from a fight, in fact she escalates fights to completely un-uncessary galactic proportions. I can only put her un-characteristic silence down to a guilty conscience.

I'll try not to let it effect the passion for my hobby but only time will tell.

Brain Circus

 

If you tell someone not to contact you, don't act surprised when they don't contact you.

Re: The negative feedback I left for Angie. I felt no joy doing so but it was warranted and hard earned. In my over 20 years on eBay I have rarely ever felt the need to resort to the dreaded red negative feedback. But this... there was no coming back from this. Angie's side of this situation just snowballed out of control at a faster-than-light pace. The sheer amount of lies that came out of her mouth and the pace with which she shot them was frankly over-whelming for me to keep up with.

 eBay's Feedback System has a character limit and - obviously - this situation is far too complicated to explain in 80 characters. As a rule of thumb, I've found this character limit often drives people to be as caustic and mean-spirited as they can within those perimeters. That's not me. I'm not that kind of person. I decided to do the mature thing and make a general allusion to a mysterious "problem" with the transaction. There's nothing specific. No name-calling. Nothing below the belt. You know, the exact opposite to Angie. There's absolutely no way in hell she could not have seen this coming.

 

Although blacked out in the image above (because I was logged into my account), user names aren't actually visible to people outside the transaction. It appears Angie was under the impression everyone could see my user name and then - based on her word alone - everyone would ostracize me from buying anything from them ever again. Wow. Just wow.

Then there she goes with the lies again... I'll own that my initial message was rude and I feel awful about the way I came across. If I could re-word it in a kinder and more empathic way, I would do so in a heartbeat. It was not my finest hour and full disclosure, if you've followed me on social media for the past 20-25 years, you'd know it's extremely rare for me to ever write a rude message. "Demanding"? Well... I asked ONCE for what I paid for. Wouldn't you want what you paid for? "Abusive" though? This is where Angie reverts to her tired 'damsel in distress' trope. It must have served her well in life because it's her fall-back knee-jerk reaction to the suggestion of having any kind of responsibility for the consequences of her actions.

 

 

Once again, for the people in the back, there was no abuse. I specifically asked eBay to investigate me because I was so upset at the idea that I had been abusive to another person. eBay found no form of abuse whatsoever. With her it's lie after lie after lie. It's an exhausting roller-coaster through Hell.

I Won.

I called Paypal and explained the situation. They put me through to the Fraud Department where they investigated and sided in my favor.

I personally wish I could have seen all her made-up "evidence" but Paypal takes fraud very seriously and escalated the case to a claim without my permission. They basically took the claim over themselves and it was the Fraud Department who refunded me personally, not Angie herself.

Unlike Angie, I'm not going to tell you to avoid buying or selling with her. I'm not going to treat you like a child and tell you what to think and feel. Read everything and make your own decisions and judgements. I think you'll be fine overall in transactions with her, but if anything goes wrong, you are probably screwed. She has demonstrated to me that she will do anything to win, and I can't see why it would be any different with someone else. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

MLP Arena thread here.

Seller's eBay username: eaglesfan73

Seller's etsy username: angiesawyer4 (no longer registered)

F is for Fraud...

Please note: I have replaced my name with black rectangles and below will use the word BUYER (in all caps) instead of my name.

BUYER is a liar! He blocked ME on ebay!

A: I'm not a liar. I have given clear evidence for everything I claimed, unlike you.

B: In arguments, people generally start out with the thing that upsets them the most. I had a small chuckle when I saw "ME" in all caps, like "the audacity of him to block MEEEEEEEEE!" kinda attitude.

Yes. I blocked you. I told everybody I would block you and I did. I can block you if I want to. I don't need any special permissions. You don't want to hear from me and I can't imagine you want any more transactions with me anyway, so I don't understand the problem here apart from your bruised ego.

BUYER claimed health issues, that's why he blocked me.

I don't need an excuse to block you. That's not how it works. 

 

I am under no obligation to experience continued abuse from you.

BUYER was abusive and hostile in the first email.

No, I wasn't. 

eBay reassured me that I wasn't - and if I was - I would have lost my account. 

You didn't like what you heard so you regressed and projected onto me. Besides, if "abuse" and "hostility" is grounds for losing this battle... all your emails fit the bill, whereas only one of mine hypothetically does. I win your Victim Olympics by your own implied standards.

I have pictures of all the items that were sent to him.

You'd better not be implying that I received the correct items because you, me, the MLP Arena and the MLP Collectors Facebook Group all know otherwise.

BUYER also admitted he was wrong, I have it saved.

Nope. Never happened. Does not exist.

You're flat out lying to me and to Paypal now.

I'm not a gloating James Bond villain, or a mustache twirling cartoon baddie, who reveals their evil master plan to the poor heroine tied-up to train tracks. Think about it for just one second, what would I have to gain from doing that? Not only is it untrue, it makes zero sense. You are my arch-nemesis and that would be literally giving you my kryptonite. It would mean various members of the Arena are in cahoots with me to make you look bad and we all made up this story to hurt you for... ummm... some mysterious reason. Your delusions of grandeur are truly astronomical.

You saying that I wrote you some sort of confession means you have impersonated me and forged evidence. You are an unscrupulous individual who wants to win at any cost whatsoever.

BUYER wants something for nothing PAYPAL, if you need photos or other documentation please let me know.

No, I don't want something for nothing. I want this issue judged once and for all by an impartial party.

But I would really love to see all these "messages" you've fabricated in Windows Paint or whatever.

You must know on some level that Paypal and eBay won't be able to verify your forged "evidence" if you submit them. Kudos for chutzpah, but this is just a little eBay transaction. If you are willing to forge documents and impersonate someone over an $8.00 My Little Pony, you will end up with a criminal record if you keep this tactic up in life.

BUYER is also angry that we call him out in our new listing as we need to explain the negative feedback.

Face it, it's not "calling out". It's a passive aggressive and childish public dig at a customer who left you a bad feedback after receiving terrible service. You know there were other ways you could have done it rather than falsely calling someone an "abusive nut".

But since you're so "calling out" behavior positive, I decided to call you out on your fraud shenanigans. Fun, hey?

BUYER received all items that were listed, his case is fabricated.

Bravo!

Bravo!

Brilliant acting there!

Hello, Paypal!

So I'm still being painted as "the bad guy" to everyone while she remains the "damsel in distress" no matter what reputation and business destroying personal attacks she launches... all without a single shred of evidence.

I want a higher power to decide. I want Paypal to look at all the evidence and decide once and for all who was right and wrong in this situation. So I opened a Paypal case and wrote this:

I'm not doing it for the small amount of money I could receive as a refund. I'm doing it to resolve this ridiculous three month dispute once and for all. She is absolutely impossible to deal with. I can't communicate with someone when we have no shared perception of reality. I can't work with someone who tries to manipulate and control the situation by using extreme emotional reactions for dramatic effect. Her volumes of lies have made everything so convoluted and daytime soap opera-esque that without external intervention, there will be no closure. No resolution. This situation unequivocally requires the outside authority of Paypal to adjudicate over this wet hot mess.

My Ears are Burning...

So I'm still browsing eBay auctions for ponies, one catches my eye. I even added it to my watch list. Later when going through said watch list, I notice it's from Angie and she's taken something positive away from this. If this personal sales policy was written at the time of our transaction, it would have changed some things. 

A week or so later I noticed she updated her policy. Fair enough, a little high maintenance but good for you!

But I'm going to leave a negative because I still don't have the items I paid for or a refund for the missing items.

She responds within 24 hours with the usual unsubstantiated allegations. Of course, forgetting that other buyers and/or sellers can't see my username while paradoxically calling for a boycott.

I never wrote any personal attacks, but she gets personal.

And then just downright name-calling.

I'm an "abusive nut". Lady, you need to look at yourself in the mirror.

Your feedback will be "corrected" like receiving a negative was a mistake? 

No. I don't believe you.

And several months later the feedback is still there.

So either you are lying or an eBay customer service officer lied to you, and I strongly doubt the latter because the feedback I left for you does not meet the eBay "feedback removal requirements".

And later this:

 

              I never told you how things are "going to go". 

I offered to pay whenever you wanted. 

Your imagination is fantastic!